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Assignment 3
This is your third assignment using the blog.
Dear students of Group 5 and 15
Please do this in pairs. Choose your partner.
This is the task.
Please provide 3 reasons for choice, whether you agree or disagree with the topic. The reasons can be submitted in the comment box in point forms. Each pair has to comment on other people's opinion. I want to see whether my students are able to be critical of other people's opinions here. Get to work. The last day to submit both your 3 reasons and comments on other people's opinions is stated as below:
Date: 4th of DECEMBER 2009
Time: 10 P.M
95 comments:
emm, what topic?
- khairi -
Parents Should be Blamed for the Crime Committed by their Children
-mullah-
really? wanna be my partner?
-khairi-
funny guys!
It is disagreed that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because
-children could be influenced by society
-children should be responsible for their action
-teachers dont imply strict enough disciplinary measures to children
guys, come on and argue with us!
if all of tou dare..
haha
lol
-khairi/mullah-
*you
sorry typing error mate..
haha
-khairi/mullah-
Parents should be blamed for the crime commited by their children
Diragree
-friends influence
-desire to try
-lack of selfconcious
siti rahmah isa
wan nabila ahmad kamal
group 5
seems that u guys had done yours
sri/wan
haha
yup,
hbu???
hurry,
post the assignment...
its not really difficult...
=p
munawwar
agree..
-no time for their children.because busy with their careers.
-questionable parenting skill
-lack of discipline showed by the parents themselves
zaini & zubeir
group 5
i think parent should not be blamed 100% ..
There are still many other causes for what had happened to the children..So,i'm not really agree with this topic...
WHY???
-friend influence.
-media influence.
-role of school to control the students..
Hafidz
Group 15..
I want more responses pleaseeeeeeeeee
to rahmah n wan nabila
what do you mean by lack of self conciuos? my question is, whom are you refering when u said lack of concious,
does it means that both parents and children should not be blamed?
-khairi-
Parents should not be blamed for the crime committed by their children because
-not only parents that the children can make as role model
-the children have the ability to think what is right and wrong
-children easily get influence by their friends
>nurul husna/nuranati zalikha<
group 5
It is totally disagreed that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because as parents, they wish to do the best for their children. In contrast, the children dare to commit the crime by their own choices. Thus, it can be explained why the children commit the crime because of..
- their attitudes
- their friends
- their surrounding
zaimislawayu&noor diana
group 15
hafidz group 15 !!
what do you mean by the role of school to control the students?
we think the school itself has their own rules. As a student, they should follow the rules not to break it. The teachers or administration cannot control the whole students in the school.
what do you think? =)
noor diana&zaimislawayu
group 15
to husna & zalika
can u explain your first point
-not only parents that the children can make as role model
-zzzz-
disagree.
-parents do not force children to do crime as children know what is right and wrong.
-children are easily influenced by their friends.
-the media also helping in crimes commited by children.
ayuni
group 5
to zzzz...
not only parents can be a role model to their children other people such as their teachers,relatives and famous figures as their role model. So we stressed here that not only parents can be the role model to the children. So we want to ask you. Who's your role model and because of what he/she become your role model?
to zzz,
i think that you dont understand about what husna & nuranati trying to
explain,
please re-read what their post again..
-kulop-
Undoubtedly,parents should not be blamed for the the crime committed by their children because:-
- influenced by peers
- driven by the curiosity
- influenced by mass media
-rafiqree and shamsal-
g15
Undoubtedly,parents should not be blamed for the the crime committed by their children because:-
- influenced by peers
- driven by the curiosity
- influenced by mass media
-rafiqree and shamsal-
g15
this message concerns on the thesis statement written by zaini & zubeir
-dont't u think that by being so busy to spend time with the children falls under the scope of lack of discipline? they ought to know how to manage their time, so by that it means that discipline has covered ur 1st reason-
-rafiqree n shamsal-
g15
to khairi / mullah:
-in what perspective you said that teachers don't imply strict enough disciplinary measures to children?
u have to consider the time spend by the children in schools instead of home.
if so, you'll not put the blame on the teachers.
you need to look the matter in general instead of just looking at specific schools. eg: boarding schools.thanx-
rafiqree n shamsal
g15
Amy's
my said...
i agree with this topic
-parents nowadays are too busy with their work so,they does not have time to take care of their children
-parents should inculcate the moral value in their children since they were kid so that they will become a good person in future.
-sometimes,parents are not a good role model to their children,so,if their parents were bad,they will become bad person too.
December 2, 2009 10:07 PM
to husna/zalika
so , sould we blame the role model instead of the parents? if the childrens were influenced by them?
btw, this place is too crowded
-zzz-
to rafiqree & shamsal,
thx 4 ur critism,
i agree with ur comment,
-thx-
-mullah-
to rafiqree & shamsal,
um,
what do you really mean by children influenced by the mass media???
as far as i concern,
mass media provides a lot +ve info n news besides the -ve...
-mullah-
it is totally agree that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because:
-they fail to give full attention to their children
-they fail to educate their children properly
-they fail to provide good surrounding for growth.
syahira n hafiza
gp.15 \(-~,)/
We agree with the topic...
Coz....
1) Lack of religous knowledge provided to the children
-Parents only care bout formal eductn...exmple:ACCOUNT!...Chemstry,science,math..etc..
-thy think that type of education is mre important nowadays..MATERIALISTIC..
2) Parents are not a gud role model 4 their chldrn..
-Prctce bad attitude such as...smoking,clubing,drinking alcoholic drinks,no polliteness in convrsation..
3) Lack of rspnsblties from prnts 2wrds chldren..
-Let other individuals take their rspnsblts..exm:teachers,LECTURERS,maid,grandfather/mather
-more focused on career...
Intelligence By:
Afeh(Mr.Kajang) N Ican
To:Zubeir N Zaini
We cannot understnd yor points..
We need sme elaborations pleeese..
Hav a look at our elaboration...nice rite?
From:Mr Kajang,Ican
To: Siti Rahmah N Wan Nabila..
What is Diragree? I think ths is a wrong spelling..Miss anti-poligamy!
About your point;(FRIENDS INFLUENCE)
if you say like that,it is not true coz eventhough there is a bad influence,if the children have strong religious strength that were lead by their parents,they will not be easily influenced....
From:Ican n mr kajang
To: rafiqree n shamsal
What? Lack Of discipline?
Don't u want to b wif yor parents?
Or u dont like them?
If u don't like them...that's not our prob...
What is more important?
Career or Love 2 children?
Money or responsibilities from GOD?
From:Mr.Kajang N Ican
I am reading. I see some actions. Keep on arguing. Crowded zzz? The more the merrier.
i want to comment on rahmah Isa and geng opinions about this topic :
-friends influence
-desire to try
-lack of selfconcious
erm...it is agreed that perents be blamed for crime commited by their children.Because at the first place friends infulence won't happen if parents observed their children from time to time.second,it's normal things if tennagers want try something new during this age.they want to learn or to feel what people feel,DON'T blame them even our parents same as us.third,actually wasn't most children doesn't have self-concious but their children don't guide them develope it more n Children it's like white balanket their parents determine it patern and colour.REMBER THAT haa......
zaini n zubair
It is totally agreed that parents should be blamed for the crime comitted by their children because...
1) the children are not given enough religious knowledge and moral values since they are young..
2) they do not have enough time to spend with their children, so they have misguided them..
3) they do not show the good examples to their children..
umi&nabilah
g5
It is totally agreed that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children.
1)lack of parental love
2)depends too much on their maids
3)lack of religious knowledge
tasha&fathihah
G15 ;)
disagreed because:
1) desire to try something new
2) peers pressure
3) lack of emotion control
-siti nur aqilah
-nadzatul
to zaini n zubeir
questionable parenting skill??
can u explain futher,
if children want to commit crime, does it related to parenting skill?
-siti nur aqilah
-nadzatul
to zaini n zubeir
questionable parenting skill??
can u explain futher,
if children want to commit crime, does it related to parenting skill?
-siti nur aqilah
-nadzatul
to rahmah n wan nabila
lack of selfconcious???
can u explain more, in our opinion, children who have selfconcious can commit crime too..right?
qilah n nadzatul
to tasha n fathihah
lack of parental love?
if the children hv been spoil too much from their parents, they still can commit crime whenever they feel like to do it..
depend too much on maid..?
what is your supporting details?cause we think it just the same like lack of parental love, besides,it can be the elaboration for your first point..right? want to argue?
aqilah n nadzatul
group 5
anybody have new idea?
let's argue here...
come on..where are the others?
don't make this comment box become dull n boring..
aqilah n nadzatul...
To: Teacher
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
Looks like nobody dares 2 argue with our points..
You can give us the blogger of the assignment award now...GAHA!
From: Mr.Kajang N Ican
to:Mr.Kajang N Ican
-u can use ur reasoning that has been granted by GOD to u but ergh...
-in malaysia, if u dont knw hw to speak tamil n mandrin is not an offence
-but if u dont knw hw to read english text, u better be in the jungle yo
-u ought 2 read our thesis statement instead of reading what we hv commented on other's thesis statement!
-u better write a letter to the dean stating that u r handicap in understanding english,,,,,,,,
-rafiqree and shamsal g15
to: mullah
thanx 4 the comment, it s so constructive anyway
-At the early age, children tend to discover new things, therefore there is tendency for them to go astray from what their parents have thought them
-what is forbidden is the most tempting one. so children prefer to go for the - side than +ones... that is the nature of human beings ha?
-eg: in the cartoon of mr.bean, the children tend to follow what is bad shown by him instead of moral values.
-other than that, with respect to the teenagers, if they were to watch movies which the element of sex have been inserted, which part do you think they would rather choose to be taken as the most interesting part in the movies?
-rafiqree n shamsal g15
To aqilah & nadzatul...
mind ur grammar :
you wrote:
"anyone 'have'new idea"...it should be = "anyone 'has' new idea" bcoz anyone refers to singular subject rite!
no offense ya...this is 4 ur own's benefits....take it as +ive reinforcement....we learn from mistakes..
-Rafiqree & Shamsal-
G 15
we are strongly agreed that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because :
- the children are lack of parental love.
- parents are not good enough in educating their children.
- parents neglect their children's necessity.
>wan nor aqila<
>athira<
group 5
to aqilah n nadzatul si gadis mnawan ;-)),
your point to be argued : desire to try something new.
still, parents should acknowledge their children's behaviour & control their daily routine & make sure the 'something new' is beneficial.
;-)
athiraqila
disagree.
-parents do not force children to do crime as children know what is right and wrong.
-children are easily influenced by their friends.
-the media also helping in crimes commited by children.
ayuni & nabila liyana
group 5
We strongly disagree parent should be blame for the crimes committed by their children because:
-peer pressure
-media influence
-own's choice
ALI & AHMAD
to rafiqree n shamsal,
thx 4 ur long elaboration...
really love argueing with u,
n i quite agree with ur cmment on the kajang guy,but dont be so mean,
haha
no offence mate,
n to mr kajang guy n his partner,
parents are not a gud role model 4 their chldrn???
like drinking n clubbing,
do you notice something??
malays are leadng the crimes cmmitted by underage chart!
haha
its true,
then whassup with the drinking n clubbing thing,
u should b more specific,
i wnt to write more but i dun wnna hurt anyone's feeling..
-mullah-
to -Rafiqree & Shamsal-
G 15
thx 4 da correction,u're right..
sorry madam, we've made a mistake, we shouldn't done that, because our class had just discussed about this before.
thx again to Rafiqree & Shamsal
no offense..
aqilah & nadzatul
to aqilah n nazatul,
u should'nt hv done that mistake,
pay more attention in class n do more exercise,
haha
no offence girlfriends,
i also need 2 improve my english...
to miss_t,
parents are not good enough in educating their children??
do u realize that every parents hv gave all tht they hv juz 2 c their child to grow into a decent human???
so parents are not to b blame!
大家晚安...
(night everyone)
-mullah-
to athiraqila
"desire to try something new"
u're right, parents should acknowledge their children's behaviour & control their daily routine & make sure the 'something new' is beneficial.
However, people under age usually have a strong desire to try something new.Eventhough their parents had told them not to commit wrong doing, behind the parents, they always had freedom to do it.
People might advise others to behave in good manners, but we cannot stop them from doing every single things that they want to do. right?
qilah n nadzatul
between what age people are consider as under age
to wan nur aqila n athira..
lack of parental love?
if the children have been spoiled too much from their parents, they still can commit crime whenever they feel like to do it..right??
Please give your supporting details to make us more clear on this point..tq
qilah n nazatul
Yes... there is one question that is very essential asked by an Anonymous (please put your name) as I am taking notes who are active and who are inactive in the discussion, between what age people are considered as underage, to be specific, in our Malaysian context?
To the others, I am reading and I am impressed by your ideas and criticism on others' ideas.
It is also good that you are correcting other people's grammar. After all, we can consider this blog as a platform to learn.
Where are the others, again?
We agree with this topic
1)Lack of attention from their parents
-Parents too busy with their works.So that,the children feel neglected.
2)The children have no freedom to do what they want to do.
-Parents too control their life.They sabotage with commit crimes.
3)Parents don't apply good morality.
-The children will follow what their parents behaviour.
faizah & wani G5
dont't u think that by being so busy to spend time with the children falls under the scope of lack of discipline? they ought to know how to manage their time, so by that it means that discipline has covered ur 1st reason-
to:-rafiqree n shamsal-
nope i against about the affect children's dicipline.correct your concept!parents buzy with children where give loves and support and guidance wasn't help their children in doing 'the children jobs' like washing children shoes which lead to lack of dicipline.i want to ask you can you by your own self manege your self or you said become more dicipline without parents guider???
by-zaini n zubair
to khairi, aqilah, nadz
lack of self-concious
it means that of course we are blaming the children.the children know what they are doing is wrong but still they want to do it.
why do aqilah/nadz said that children who have self-concious can still do the crime?
for example like us.we know that going to club is wrong.as we have self-conciuos we will not go there.
to zaini n zubir
can u explain more on questionable parenting skill????
we didnt get what u ar trying 2 say.
wrong spelling for REMEMBER
yes parents can observed their children from time to time.but the only thing that the parents can do is asking their children where n with whom they go.but if the children are lying the parents would not know EXCEPT YOU WANT TO DO A PART-TIME JOB 'SPYING YOUR CHILDREN LIKE YHE PAPADOM STORY'
to ican n kajang boy
im not anti-poligamy but just DISAGREED with the way it is perform
as you said the children will not be easily influenced but they STILL can be influenced
strong religious strength that lead by their parents????
even the ustaz that has strong religious strength can commit sin by influence.this is just a child who is still learning will easily distructed by the environment
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE LYRICS FROM RAIHAN SONG 'IMAN MUTIARA'
FROM : sitirahmahisa/wanabila
to mr arrogant(ican) n kajang boy
parents want their children to excellence in math chemistry bcoz of our environment.when we apply for job they mostly wouldn't ask do you past your pendidikan islam right.parents just wanted the best for their children.
we learned religious subject in school and home.even we learn about religion in home not as much as in school but the children still have the basic about the religion.
for everything that happens we should blame ourselves noy other bcoz we had been given a choice whether it is good or bad.
the answer is in our hand.that is why we are given mind that make us think before make decision.the mind that make us different from the animal
from : sitirahmahisa / wanabila
to: zaini n zubair
hello, what are we trying to say is both of your statements are the same...i don't knw what course r u, but in law, 'falls under the scope of' means that "the statement is included in the same category of"....so we don't indeed say that the time spend by the parents AFFECTS the children's discipline....
-neway, u have learnt something new ha?
-rafiqree n shamsal-g15
We agreed that parents are responsible for the crime committed by their children n they should be blame because..
1. Parents are too busy that they do not have much precious time to be spent with their abandoned children especially teenagers.
2. Due to that, they cannot educate their children well.
3. Some parents are not well mannered. They do not show good example to their children. Children are full of curiosity.
fatin & nik
g15
We disagree that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because:
1)mass media
2)peer influenced
3)their own desire in committing crime
akmawanie & aisyah idris
g15
to everyone,
try 2 give more new idea to b argue..
to madam,
i think the writing class blog idea was tremendous!
thx
-mullah-
To ct rahmah n wan nabila...
we think those who are self-conscious can still do crimes because they do crimes not based on their self-conscious,but are based on their desire to do something..even though, they know that clubbing is wrong,they will still go there because they have the desire to do it..right??
qilah n nazatul
we disagree that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children because recent children:
1)excessive exposure with violent(eg;movie,media,external environment)
2)wrong judgment in social life
3)mental problem
remember guys,we are going to be our parents' children forever,but we are not going to be 18 forever(mean that if we commit crime,we are juvenile offender).so, the power is in our hands.do not blame the parents.think.
nureen
amy
g15
tq.
i extremely disagree with this topic...
1. its all bcoz of the influences from their fren...!!!
2. their own decision to do so...!!
(curios to do new things)
3. influence by media such as tv and radio..!!
-muNaWwAr-
(mamu)
i extremely disagree with this topic...
1. its all bcoz of the influences from their fren...!!!
2. their own decision to do so...!!
(curios to do new things)
3. influence by media such as tv and radio..!!
-muNaWwAr-
(mamu)
to zzz,
usually the children will follow what their role model did.the will take their role model as their idol.so don't ever blame the parents.if the role models do something good they will follow and so on..
p/s:children mean more than 1 child.so should not put 's'.
husna&zalikha
hei munawar,how could you use short form!!
this blog is created to improve our English okay!!
take it as granted mates...
-someone that concern
hei munawar,how could you use short form!!
this blog is created to improve our English okay!!
take it as granted mates...
-someone that concern
to mr kajang,
mother should spell with 'o' not 'a'
online reading makes me dizzy,
i just couldn`t read like this, sorry
keep up everyone
- zzz -
dont stop blogging please!!!
lets argue n argue..
make this blog become more active and interesting...
mates...how eng paper???
last saturday...
the 2nd paragraph is very hard right...
yup..that's right...
it is not 2nd paragraph but 2nd passage my dear.. yeah.. a bit hard to understand..
totally disagree that parents should be blamed for the crime committed by their children in terms of
.attitudes
.friends
.surrounding
-aisyah
To: rafiqree n shamsal What? Lack Of discipline? Don't u want to b wif yor parents? Or u dont like them? If u don't like them...that's not our prob... What is more important? Career or Love 2 children? Money or responsibilities from GOD? From:Mr.Kajang N Ican
hei munawar,how could you use short form!! this blog is created to improve our English okay!! take it as granted mates... -someone that concern
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